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In Reply to you Post on my User Page: This is really funny - the editing page says:

"Please note that all contributions to Hydrogenaudio Knowledgebase are considered to be released under the GNU Free Documentation License 1.2 (see Project:Copyrights for details). If you don't want your writing to be edited mercilessly and redistributed at will, then don't submit it here."

This does not make any sense at all. The GNU FDL does not permit your writing to be "edited mercilessly and redistributed at will" - you are stating on your edit page that you are willing and going to ignore the copyright of the submitted texts. If you want to do this, you have to state that all submited texts are considered to be released into public domain - not FDL.

To complete the crazyness this whole stuff is not present on the german version of the interface (I don't have to change any settings to see the german version, It's default - I never saw the english version). So everyone whose mother-tongue is not english will not even know about your license-violating plans.

I don't want to complain (already did that on the concerned page ;) and I'm fine with your apology but I just wanted to note that you may be getting yourself into some legal trouble here. --Chronial 06:37, 24 September 2006 (CDT)

wha's hopponin' ere? - GFDL+copyright freak Ell io tt mob ilehttp://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/images/c/c1/Fishysig.PNG 07:34, 24 September 2006 (CDT)

it seems that Canar is copying from copyrighted websites, right? the websites would have to be public domain BUT posting them here IF THEY WERE PUBLIC DOMAIN would release 'em under GFDL. this is ok because public domain stuff can be done anything with even relicensed. what he's doing is likely illegal, and you should replace the pages with {{copyvio}}. Ell io tt mob ilehttp://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/images/c/c1/Fishysig.PNG 07:40, 24 September 2006 (CDT)

nope, it's about Canar moving the content of a page 90% created by me from Title formatting to Foobar2000:Tagscript, instead of renaming the page. This results in a FDL violation, since it requires the authors of the text to be named.

He responed that the wiki says (only with english interface!) "If you don't want your writing to be edited mercilessly and redistributed at will, then don't submit it here." - but this is still a violation of the FDL, and so HA states that they are gonna violate your rights if you post stuff to the wiki oO.

This is like a instead of selling a car telling the buyer that you will give it to him for free, but will later come over and rob the money he would have to pay from him. It's just illegal --Chronial 08:33, 24 September 2006 (CDT)

Please note that all contributions to Hydrogenaudio Knowledgebase are considered to be released under the GNU Free Documentation License 1.2 (see Project:Copyrights for details). If you don't want your writing to be edited mercilessly and redistributed at will, then don't submit it here.

You are also promising us that you wrote this yourself, or copied it from a public domain or similar free resource. DO NOT SUBMIT COPYRIGHTED WORK WITHOUT PERMISSION!

That's the actual text, so it's just getting a point across and linking to more info. But yes, that's a copyright violation. I agree. Ell io tt mob ilehttp://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/images/c/c1/Fishysig.PNG 08:35, 24 September 2006 (CDT)

Am I right asuming this will be a non-issue if I merge the histories? Jan 10:54, 24 September 2006 (CDT)

Yep. Ell io tt mob ilehttp://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/images/c/c1/Fishysig.PNG 12:47, 24 September 2006 (CDT)

Done :) now be happy! Jan 13:11, 24 September 2006 (CDT)

It was allready fine with me when Canar appologized ;). But I wanted to warn you that the sentences "Please note that all contributions to Hydrogenaudio Knowledgebase are considered to be released under the GNU Free Documentation License 1.2 (see Project:Copyrights for details)." and "If you don't want your writing to be edited mercilessly and redistributed at will, then don't submit it here." are in legal conflict.--Chronial 14:21, 24 September 2006 (CDT)

*cough* It's on wikipedia and all other wikimedia installations. And richard stallman, original creator of the GFDL, has an account at wikipedia. Legal issues are shoved to the GFDL link. It's just a reminder, not a conflict. Ell io tt mob ilehttp://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/images/c/c1/Fishysig.PNG 14:48, 24 September 2006 (CDT)

Ehm, the whole things tems from me being ignorant of the move function at the time I did it. I copied rather than moved. If Chronial perceives this to be such a major slight that it requires an apology and getting all up in arms about, then I apologize. I still think the whole matter is completely overblown and quite silly. -- Canar 15:16, 24 September 2006 (CDT)