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table formatting confusion

I LOLed reading HotShot's comments. Here's a summary of things to watch when formatting table.

  • The key is the first character. The pipe character ( | ) produces standard text, the exclaim character ( ! ) produces boldface text. Unless the table's style has been modified to make all text bold.
  • The general alignment is set by the table's style, which is the very first line in the table definition.
  • The line with a pipe-dash ( |- ) marks start of a new row. You can put style here, which applies to the whole row.
  • You can override style for a single cell. E.g., the table is styled to center the text. To left align a cell, slip the style after the first char ( | or ! ) and put another pipe char before the cell's entry.

Hope this helps. Oh and for comment re: Linux downloads, see below... --pepoluan 04:34, 19 June 2006 (CDT)

pretty tables

Looking at the recent changes here, it would be nice to be able to get into the style.css for the wiki to make it easier to make pretty tables. --Reglib 04:57, 1 June 2006 (CDT)

I'm not sure but I think you can do that at MediaWiki:Monobook.css. Jan 05:20, 1 June 2006 (CDT)

Currently all the CSS pages are protected. Templates are another option, but being really lazy, CSS can be simpler if you put in the initial work. I'll try template-only formatting for a few weeks, and if I think CSS is needed I'll come a hollerin'

some links for me to look at later: [1] [2] MediaWiki:Common.css --Reglib 11:54, 1 June 2006 (CDT)

Templates are an excellent choice. I think for the timg being though, it would just be easier to add CSS2 tags instead. Templates would keep things more organized, despite the fact though. --HotshotGG 20:40, 1 June 2006 (CDT)

HotshotGG, please keep the outer border ala the tables in Recommended Ogg Vorbis. Outer borders prevent table runins making them currently rather confusing and all mixed-up IMO. Also... next time you make extensive editing, why not edit the whole page at once instead of section by section (1) I got a headache looking at the history :P (2) Jan still has not put spacing before section/subsection heads so the sections all run together :( --pepoluan 13:59, 5 June 2006 (CDT)

Disregard my previous comments. The dotted lines look ugly. I changed to 2px solid line. But the color looks... um, unappetizing now. Edit all page, and replace every occurence of #ffdead with something better (using notepad or similar).

A thought: Should we maintain same coloring for all page, or vary it like in the Listening Tests page? --pepoluan 15:14, 5 June 2006 (CDT)

It looks fine with the solid border. A user defined template would be better so that the style can be consist across the wiki pages. Yes do the same for the listening test page. The standard border is irrating to my eyes. --HotshotGG 19:06, 6 June 2006 (CDT)

Some bureaucracy before some real work... what nomenclature should we use for table formatting templates? It must be short, because they'll be used frequently, but still descriptive. Template:<prefix><family>[-variant] so... stuff like Template:TFpretty, Template:TFpretty-head --Reglib 17:36, 6 June 2006 (CDT)

using simple lingo will work. page-head, page-body, etc. --HotshotGG 19:06, 6 June 2006 (CDT)

Mmm... recolorized the tables. I pull out the colors just out of thin air. I think Microsoft's color is blue. I'm not sure about the others, though. As to why they are pastels, I tried pure colors (e.g. #0000ff) and believe me, it looks awful.

If we want to maintain sameness, IMO the template name must contain something to indicate its relation, e.g. Microsoft's color, Apple's color, Linux's color, etc. --pepoluan 14:16, 12 June 2006 (CDT)

I just realized that the tables are displayed differently in I.E 6.0 vs. Mozilla. This may be a problem? ;-/ HotshotGG 23:38, 23 June 2005 (CDT)

merge the linux download page?

Now that the Download Page is detailed into Windows and Mac OS/X parts (and also PocketPC part), do you think we ought to merge the Download Page for Linux here? --pepoluan 16:29, 6 June 2006 (CDT)

Yes I think so. Jan 16:58, 6 June 2006 (CDT)

Yes we should. HotshotGG 18:58, 9 June 2006 (CDT)

mmmmmmkayyyy... I'll see what I can do over the next several days. --pepoluan 14:16, 12 June 2006 (CDT)

It seems HotShotGG beat me to it... so can we retire/redirect the links to the Download Linux page? Don't forget to use the What links here link on the toolbox on the left (just under the search box) --pepoluan 04:34, 19 June 2006 (CDT)

I think most - if not all - information from the Download Linux page has been merged. I've removed notice at top of this page, and put a decommission notice at the top of Download Linux page. I haven't replaced/deleted the link to Download Linux from anywhere else. --pepoluan 08:53, 23 June 2006 (CDT)

Maybe adding a redirect from the Linux download page to this one might be a good idea. If that is not yet done of course. --Beto 20:44, 23 August 2006 (CDT)

I added a redirect from the download page linux to this page. I hope I did it right because I cannot access the linux download page anymore.... --Beto 14:26, 24 August 2006 (CDT)

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taken from

No, because there are 10,000 of them already (especially Windows). A few can be added to the table I suppose. Other platforms along those lines. --HotshotGG 1:49, 7 July 2006 (CDT)