https://wiki.hydrogenaud.io/index.php?title=Secure_ripping&feed=atom&action=historySecure ripping - Revision history2024-03-19T11:13:13ZRevision history for this page on the wikiMediaWiki 1.22.7https://wiki.hydrogenaud.io/index.php?title=Secure_ripping&diff=27403&oldid=prev82.132.186.154: /* Ripping Modes */2017-08-20T22:46:33Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Ripping Modes</span></span></p>
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</table>82.95.236.142https://wiki.hydrogenaud.io/index.php?title=Secure_ripping&diff=22157&oldid=prevMjb: /* What is Secure Ripping? */ added an overview paragraph2010-11-25T05:59:47Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">What is Secure Ripping?: </span> added an overview paragraph</span></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">===Hydrogenaudio User Recommendations===</del></div></td><td colspan="2"> </td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">The general consensus at Hydrogenaudio is that everyone taste's are different. One Secure ripper that works for one person might not be the right match for another, depending upon the users expectations and what features their CD-ROM drives have. It best to first determine what features your CD-ROM drives have before you proceed to decide, which ripper you may be considering using (see external links below). Linux users desiring EAC or dbPowerAMP might be hard pressed to find out that that the application cannot be ported to Linux, but can be run under [http://www.winhq.com/ Wine] an abstraction layer that allows you to run Win32 applications on Linux. Linux users seeking an alternative who cannot run EAC or dbPowerAMP under Wine may want to consider [[Rubyripper]]. One of the more popular rippers at Hydrogenaudio is [[EAC]] in which there are countless guides for. The only drawback is that it nightmare to configure for a new user inexperienced with secure CD ripping. Users desiring something simpler on Windows may want to try [[dbPowerAMP]], which less painlful to configure and can provide the same secure rip's with extra features like better use of C2 error pointers and improved PefectMeta. Some who desire a secure alternative on Mac OS/X to the ITunes Ripper may want to go with [[Max]] or [[XLD]]. Ultimately what the decision comes down to is what one's drive features and expectations are.  </del></div></td><td colspan="2"> </td></tr>
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</table>Greynolhttps://wiki.hydrogenaud.io/index.php?title=Secure_ripping&diff=21789&oldid=prevGreynol: /* Accurate Stream */2010-07-30T01:19:45Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Accurate Stream</span></span></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Accurate Stream is a CD drive's ability to avoid "jitter". A CD drive, when told to go to a particular point on an audio disc, will usually go to a certain number of samples ahead or behind that point, and all the data blocks it reads will be relative to that starting point. If your CD drive supports 'Accurate Stream', this offset will be a constant value, and should be the same for each particular make and model of drive. Usually the offset is not very large (around 1/250th of a second or less). Secure ripping software can take into account whether the drive has Accurate Stream, in order to know whether extra analysis needs to be done to compensate for jitter. It's still possible to do secure ripping <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">without </del>Accurate Stream; it's just easier and faster when <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">it's supported</del>.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Accurate Stream is a CD drive's ability to avoid "jitter". A CD drive, when told to go to a particular point on an audio disc, will usually go to a certain number of samples ahead or behind that point, and all the data blocks it reads will be relative to that starting point. If your CD drive supports 'Accurate Stream', this offset will be a constant value, and should be the same for each particular make and model of drive. Usually the offset is not very large (around 1/250th of a second or less). Secure ripping software can take into account whether the drive has Accurate Stream, in order to know whether extra analysis needs to be done to compensate for jitter. It's still possible to do secure ripping <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">with drives that don't have the </ins>Accurate Stream <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">feature</ins>; it's just easier and faster when <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">they do</ins>.</div></td></tr>
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</table>Greynolhttps://wiki.hydrogenaud.io/index.php?title=Secure_ripping&diff=21788&oldid=prevGreynol: /* AccurateRip */2010-07-30T01:17:17Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">AccurateRip</span></span></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[AccurateRip]] is a database that allows you to find out if your CD rips are the same as other people<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">'s</del>; if they were, then it's likely the rips are truly error-free. The database stores <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">disc IDs and </del>checksums for ripped tracks<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">, and it contains info for thousands of drives</del>. <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">This drive info makes it possible to reliably compare the track </del>checksums<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">, </del>and <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">includes each drive's make & model, read offset, AccurateStream capability, audio data cache ability, and use of C2 error pointers. All data about drives and ripped tracks is user-</del>submitted<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">, but is managed </del>through the ripping software.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[AccurateRip]] is a database that allows you to find out if your CD rips are the same as <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">those ripped by </ins>other people; if they were, then it's likely the rips are truly error-free. The database stores checksums for ripped tracks <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">in order to accomplish this</ins>. <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline"> The </ins>checksums <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">are generated when ripping </ins>and <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">can be </ins>submitted <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">to the database </ins>through the ripping software <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">if the user so chooses</ins>.</div></td></tr>
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</table>Greynolhttps://wiki.hydrogenaud.io/index.php?title=Secure_ripping&diff=21787&oldid=prevGreynol: /* Caching */2010-07-30T01:04:51Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Caching</span></span></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Caching is the ability of the CD-ROM drive to hold a certain amount of <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">samples </del>in <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">a </del>buffer<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">. Every CD-ROM cache </del>can be <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">"flushed"</del>. <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Caching affects secure </del>ripping <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">because </del>when the drive is told to re-read something, it might just send the cached data instead of actually re-reading the disc. <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">A secure ripper </del>will <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">make sure </del>the cache <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">is flushed so </del>the <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">disc is </del>re-read.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Caching is the ability of the CD-ROM drive to hold a certain amount of <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">data </ins>in <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">its </ins>buffer <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">so that it </ins>can be <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">readily available in the event that it is requested more than once</ins>. <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">This can cause problems for </ins>ripping <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">programs </ins>when <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">they request the same data be extracted more than once in order to detect errors. When </ins>the drive is told to re-read something, it might just send the cached data instead of actually re-reading the disc.</div></td></tr>
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</table>Greynolhttps://wiki.hydrogenaud.io/index.php?title=Secure_ripping&diff=21786&oldid=prevGreynol: /* C2 error pointers (software) */2010-07-30T00:29:46Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">C2 error pointers (software)</span></span></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">CD-ROMs </del>have <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">differing levels of error recognition and correction built-in. C2 is a standard error detection & reporting scheme for certain types of audio CD read errors. When a drive with C2 support detects a read error, it does its own re-reading of </del>the <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">affected portion of the disc and attempts </del>to <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">fix </del>the data <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">itself as best it can. When the drive is feeding this data </del>to the ripping <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">software, it sends C2 error pointers so the software knows that an error occurred and whether it was successfully fixed by the drive. Some copy-protected CDs fool the drive's firmware into thinking </del>there <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">were C2 </del>errors.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Some drives </ins>have the <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">ability </ins>to <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">provide additional information about </ins>the <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">audio </ins>data <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">that has been extracted in order </ins>to <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">alert </ins>the ripping <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">program when </ins>there <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">are uncorrectable </ins>errors. <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline"> </ins>This category <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">lists </ins>whether the secure ripping software <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">is able to request </ins>and <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">utilizes </ins>C2 pointers <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">from </ins>drives that <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">provide them</ins>.</div></td></tr>
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